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Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8 - RECONCILIATION/ATONEMENT - words/meanings
Brother Tim: Good work, wonderfully romantic and human yet reaching out to
the divine in the common good of everyday life! The prairie is kind of a
monestary like that----------thanks. Roger
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Re: Olson on the Shack
Matt, Jane and Shack readers,
I wrote this post once but it got lost in the ether :)
Roger Olson, a friend, is a solid theologian and historian of
doctrine, a self-defined "post-conservative" who gets into hot water
from time to time with the evangelical community. For a take on his
framework see his "Reformed and Always Reforming; The Postconservative

Re: In Praise of Confusion as protection against the lust for clarity
Donald
What is "false clarity"? Clarity of commitment to something not so or immoral (an instance of the latter, the Nazi decision for "a final solution" - in my section 3).
Your other comments are on my section 7:
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Of course "other religions maintain the same"! Every world-paradigm explains everything, making the existence of the other world-paradigms unnecessary. Instead of accepting this as the human condition, some become cynical (denying "truth" as available to humanity) & drop out, some try by persuasion & violence to secure the dominance of their paradigm, all who are sincerely commitment to their paradigm try to persuade to it, some make up their own religion in hope of its replacing the others (e.g., M.Yosso's "transreigious unitivelove"), & some agree with Alice's Queen of Hearts that "all have won and all shall have prizes." / The hypothetical that if I were born in some other time & place, would I not believe the then-&-there paradigm, is nonsense: I wouldn't be me. / My paradigm "should be preferred" because (as I said of anybody's paradigm) it "explains everything, making the existence of the other world-paradigms unnecessary."

Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8 - RECONCILIATION/ATONEMENT - words/meanings
Thanks Tim, lovely.
R

Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8 - RECONCILIATION/ATONEMENT - words/meanings
Richard (re: smells of passion),
Here is a short poem I wrote a few years ago on this Gospel passage.  I hope you find it meaningful:
 
MARY'S HAIR
Her sister,
Laying plates in their places
And straightening the napkins once more
Did not notice at first--
Nor did her brother,
Still wide-eyed, fresh from the tomb,

Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8 - RECONCILIATION/ATONEMENT - words/meanings
I noticed there are a lot of smells in the both the Gospel and the Epistle. My thoughts on John 12-1-8 are called “Extravagant Love and the Smells of Passion.” I'm not preaching, but if you are looking for some thoughts they are here: [link]

Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8 - RECONCILIATION/ATONEMENT - words/meanings
Willis: In the creation account it says man is made in the "image" and "likeness" what is the difference in the original languages. Roger----- Original Message -----
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Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8 - RECONCILIATION/ATONEMENT - words/meanings
reconciliation is something we need to do, atonement is something only God does.
ON TARGET, man!
*Katallage* - the word you mention as for both - had, as its street-meaning, money-exchange. No matter how high & wide a plant grows, it never loses the reality of its SOIL: no matter how diversified the meanings of a word (its "semantic domain") become, it never loses its contact with the STREET (by which I mean its origin in common, earthly life).

Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8
Dear Jane,
Good insight about the feet. Notice that Mary's brother Lazarus, the
dead man, came forth from the tomb "his hands and feet bound with
strips of cloth." And there he sits with Jesus.
And that brings me to Calvin. Calvin noted that perfume functioned as
a prayer for the resurrection of the dead in those days. Thus: "May

qUICK NOTE ON aNDREW mURRAY
Good Morning all,

As a quick response to Chris' query, if Andrew Murray believed in the second blessing, from what I have read in his various devotional texts, it does not come across as a major theme, even as the pursuit of holiness does. What I do pick up is that, with and through the grace of God, we can grow a great deal more toward holiness than we often do and that it is an essential component of the Christian vocation to seek to do so. Here's a good link. Here's a link on Murray's writings: [link]. Perhaps this reflection comes close to the "second blessing": [link]. Note: Even if he did believe in that (not sure he did), the broader emphasis in his work is his passionate quest for himself and his readers to live ever closer to the promptings and teachings of the living God. However vast the gulf between the reach and the grasp, we do have, with and through God's grace, to make some progress in the life of faith. I think this is his more important teaching whatever he may have believed on the "second blessing."

Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8
Dear Herb,

I am sorry it has taken me so long to engage with you over your sermon
note on this week's Gospel text. I have been struggling for some time now with
my own message for this Sunday, and I have my basic ideas worked out,
after doing much study and reflection. I won't share them here, except in one

Re: # 5 The Cry of Compassion...the last sermon
Hi, Chris,
Thank you for sharing your sermon series with us. I did not see myself in
the wounded healer.

Jane

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Re: Sermon Note: Mar. 21, Fifth Sunday in Lent, John 12:1-8
In both Mark and John, disciples raise the same concerns about the use
of resources, but Mark does not put the words in Judas's mouth. In
Mark, Judas goes to the chief priests immediately after the anointing
and offers to betray Jesus. Most Bibles today separate the two
stories with a section heading, but I doubt if the original was so

Re: Olson on the Shack
Matt,
You and I think that we did 90% work but we merely had merciful teachers.
;-)
Chris
God Is Still Laughing
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